So I seriously have been getting LOTS of questions and demands on my Hakuouki SSL first impressions post, which brought everybody to the same question in the end: Where can I watch Hakuouki SSL dorama ? GIVES US LINKS PURESU!; this mostly after the first episode on bilibili.com got deleted, so I decided to reply to everybody with an official Let’s talk post, also trying to explain why is this drama so “unreachable” for the western audience.
FACT 1
Hakuouki SSL is a drama that I don’t think anybody besides a fan of the actual Hakuouki anime/game would actually attempt to English sub for us; Why? Because it’s so niche by default, which brings us to FACT 2.
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FACT 2
Sad to admit, Japanese dramas aren’t THAT popular and, as I said before, they’re turning towards a pretty niche audience most of the time. What is niche? A product relating to or aimed at a small specialized group or market; which means that the product will rarely be enjoyed by a person outside this specialized group or market. There are of course exceptions to this. In Hakuouki SSL case the directed market would be the reverse harem/otome game lovers. You could argue and ask “But Neko, there are reverse harem animes out there too and they got subbed! And I can name Korean reverse harem dramas as well, which got subbed and were very adored! “. About the first thing, anime and dramas stand on different levels of popularity when it comes to the western fans. Some anime, if not most, don’t have a problem because even if niche, the fans will still prefer the anime to a drama and I’ll get to explain why later. As for some Korean reverse harem dramas, yes, they exist. You’re Beautiful is an example, but differently from Japanese otome game adaptations, they tend to make it incredibly funny instead of incredibly corny, so it can appeal to more people; at least for the comedy. Even if more guys fall in love with the main girl, there’s still that one main guy that is obviously canon and the others don’t really jump on her with every occasion as in a kind of hunting contest; or if they do, it’s always moderately.
FACT 3
You might not be aware of it, but the fanbase of most doramas is rather limited. Though they are produced by Japanese people, the amount of Japanese into J-dramas is (actually) rather small, and the Western fans even more. This results in the industry being unable to finacially sustain a high budget project, and I seriously think they don’t really want to risk that either. Low budget means mediocre props, mediocre effects, mediocre camera equipment, shorter episodes, shorter series (Japanese dramas usually are inbetween 6 and 12 episodes, sometimes even shorter, if they’re not investigation genre). Warning: low budget doesn’t necessarily mean bad script, bad actors, bad director, but they just have to make due with what they get.
FACT 4
The acting of Japanese actors has raised many eyebrows. If you’re used to another country’s dramas or western TV shows in general, Japanese actors might look “forced” to you. I personally believe it’s not a matter of bad acting, but a matter of mentality. Lots of Japanese dramas tend to want to immitate anime characters and we all know that anime would look awkward in real life, as live action would look weird in an anime (Aku no Hana I’m looking at you). And even if they’re not trying to immitate anime, they either look rigid or tend to overreact and are obviously hyperactive, mostly when it comes to comedy; but that’s part of the Japanese humor. There’s no way around it, you either like it or you dislike it or just don’t care about it. Personally, I don’t even find it worth debating or discussing about the quality of their acting. I do not find it unbearable, but I do not really care about acting either unless it’s simply horrible which is a rare case. (You can see how my limit bar for that is set very high wich makes me more prone to like doramas from this point of view.)
FACT 5
Many J-dramas are just adaptations of already existing manga and/or already existing anime. It’s what anime/manga fans refer to as “live action“. Through my experience with anime/manga dorama adaptations, the times when anime fans actually praised them were, and still continue, being rare. The Death Note movies might have been considered a success, but the Death Note drama, not that much. Most people watched the Death Note drama because it was simply Death Note; at least from my experience with the community, the fans of the original anime/manga were left with a bittersweet taste in their mouth. Similarly, the recent Attack on Titan live action received mixed reviews from the western community, while Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo dorama was labeled as corny and overreacted by the same audience, at least compared to the anime. (A similar situation happens inbetween anime adapted after mangas, with most people claiming that the manga is always better, but that topic will be for another time,I’m only mentioning it so you can have a more relatable example.)
AND…THEN WHAT?
You can find and watch the Hakuouki SSL episodes here:
(Edit: Links have been updated as of 12/11/2015)
(Please let me know if any of the links have issues and also please note that these are RAWs. For the reasons I stated above, the chances for this to get translares are small.)
No need to thank me! I don’t usually share links and stuff, but in this case I want more of you to be able to watch it. Even though I don’t usually like doing summaries, I can do that too, so you can read my summaries and understand what is going on in the show at the same time even without subs. So wait for it in the following posts.
HOWEVER, don’t ask me to start my own fansub one-man team or even a team in general. That is a responsability that takes lots of time and lots of work and patience that I seriously do not have ! XD Been there, tried that, done that and I’m over with that lifestyle! XD Because, yes, fansubbing and scanlating is a lifestyle.
Please enjoy! And see you next time!
Still can’t get over the fact that J-dramas are refered to as Doramas, not everyone reads it the way your meant to haha.
Many true facts, they do reproduce mangas/animes quite often into dramas which then get reproduced into another drama ( kdrama, tdrama etc) they need more original dramas haha most are undiscovered.
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I know right. It’s just sad. lol for the “dorama” part!
I wish I could cover some Japanese dramas, My opinion on dramas based on anime/manga, is the same as anime based on manga. The original is not always better, if you take the series as a standalone, it can actually be pretty good, but if you stay and nitpick everything that has changed from the original story, then of course it will never get any better in anybody’s eyes. I was also one of the people that were quite annoyed by the fact that the new Death note drama changed the characters of Light and L so much from the original, but I’m not planning to judge that drama by corelating it to the original, but as a standalone. I thnk that if people would be able to think more from this point of view, the community would also be happier.
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In my opioniom they should stop remaking already highly rated products, it is a waste of many and viewing. People want new things not remakes of good things, though yes if one does not know the original story many of the remakes would be great standalones. I guess this is the way media is and will stay for awhile till something changes
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That is also one undeniable truth!
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I love Hakuouki…but I’m just so hesitant to watch this, LOL. I might just end up doing it anyway just to see for myself how it is!
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haha I understand the reluctance, I was the same. But if you keep your expectations to a minimum expecting to only have fun (or lovingly make fun of them), I can guarantee that you will enjoy it somewhat. XD I know I did have fun XD I have no shame to recognize that I’m watching it only because it’s Hakuouki’s name stamped on it and for no other reason haha
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Ep.4 got removed tho….
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Seriously? fu@#ady&%£ha Dailymotion! I’ll try to find another link!
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ep5 was gone
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episode 5 is here http://www.tudou.com/listplay/U5QMsfIiREk/nL5FKVYdM6Y.html
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Thank you :3
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Hello,
Are these raws? Or are they at least subbed?
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Hello! They are raw 🙂 for the reasons mentioned above it’s hard to say if anybody would try to sub them unfortunately.
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Even so, there are a lot of movies that have been coming out that are actually VERY good. Library Wars has some of the BEST acting I’ve ever seen in a Japanese live action and I don’t feel like it was ever forced. Rurouni Kenshin was also great as well.
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Yep, they are actually very good examples! i should have specified there are exceptions to everything, but I tried to talk about it using the general lines. There are always people that bash Japanese dramas for one reason or another, mostly because they think k-dramas are superiour, which might be true from a filming quality point of view, but I’m sure there is more to uncover there. I don’t really tend to like kdramas anyway, so maybe that’s why. Death note drama was actually very good as well acting wise and filming wise, changes to the original story apart. XD But I’ll watch those titles you mentioned too and of course write about it too :3
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Lol no it’s fine! You still spoke about this issue so that’s good! I dn’t really care for kdrama’s either. They’re waaaay too long. Too glamored up and it’s kind of boring. Itazura Na Kiss and Mishevious Kiss both were based off the same manga and while the actors in MK were more attractive, they couldn’t act. At all. And other kdrama fans even admitted this. And the story just dragged. Itazura made up for everything by giving heart to the manga and providing a competent cast.
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Yes, true. XD I am actually watching a kdrama named “She was pretty” which was great for the first 9 episodes. then from episode 10 onwards I started facepalming my head off. Issues that are not even issues, problems that don’t even make any sense, random changes of attitude, random comedy when it’s unnecessary etc. All because drama must have 16 episodes! (눈_눈) Sorry for the rant, but I’m very salty about it!
Didn’t hear about that :O That’s also something worthy to talk about :O Have you watched the Korean version of Hana Kimi (To the beautiful you)? I heard it was pretty bad too, though I heard some lame reasons why it was so bad (mostly related to the Japanese-like comedy which apparently only Japan is allowed to do; that just sounds so racist to me hahahah). Didn’t watch it though so I can’t judge. o-o
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Exactly!!!! I feel you.
And no, I haven’t watched either but my friend did. She’s a hardcore kpop/kdrama fan and she literally raged about the kdrama adapatation. She’d never read the manga but she kept on telling me that the kdrama was crap.
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lol same as my friend then. XD I would be lying if I said I didn’t want to watch it anyway to see how bad it is using my own standards…x’D
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Lol hey, don’t limit youorself! If you’re curious check it out! XD
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hahah I don’t tend to limit myself, which is a problem for some of my friends. x’D Mostly when I have the intent to watch it only to laugh at how bad it is. (I’ve annoyed people with it, must admit.x’D) I don’t believe in the “watch it only if you’re sure you’ll like it” concept. How do I know if I won’t like it in the future if I don’t try it out or watch it properly till the end? It might also just start good and end up badly or start badly and end up good or start badly and end badly! lol I don’t consider that time wasted, but experience. I might get annoyed, frustrated, facepalm my head off or just plainly laugh at it, but it’s entertaining to try and find both good and bad points of something and then talk about it. o.o
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OMG yes!! Neko, you are amazing! XD
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hahah I don’t think so, but thank you! XD
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Hahaha I think so! And I know many others do too! Never quit being you, Neko-chan XD
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Lemme give you a hug for saying that ! (I’m a person obviously scarred for getting into too many arguments about it XD) *hug hug* Love you, Leafy!
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Awwww lolololol Neko you’re so funnyXD *hugs back* Love you too, Neko! XD
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haha you still owe me your Skype/LINE/tumblr-whatever-contact-method-you-want, by the way. -*poke poke*
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I’ll delete this comment to keep your Line from getting flooded with random people. XD better safe than sorry.
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Lol thanks! Didn’ think of that:)
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If anyone understands Indonesian, there’s a subtitles in that language, up to ep 4.
http://www.dramaku.net/2015/10/hakuouki-ssl-sweet-school-life-subtitle-indonesia.html
and thank you for linking the videos. i was searching forever
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Thank you too! 😉
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Is ep 6 already out? Why cant i watch ep 6?! ;A;)))))
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It is out, however I don’t know why on both websites it has trouble loading. I request a bit of patience to see if the problem can get solved soon 🙂
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Hakuouki ssl is going to be the movie next year.
That so GREAT. The series 6 ep, I think it sound like promote or something.
but the movie look better.
[url]http://www.cinemart.co.jp/hakuoki_ssl/movie.html[/url]
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Thanks! I think you’re the only one who mentions where we can find them. Otherwise we would have to use the Japanese Title to search it.
The good is that Todou has it subbed in Chinese (yay). The bad is its not subbed in English.
But the theme follows exactly the SSL PS Vita game/online doujin and so a lot of the dialogue seems pulled directly from the original source material (which people have translated and posted on YouTube).
I will love watching this because it’s hilarious and comforting to see them together again in the future ;-D
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Oh that’s a nice tip. I didn’t know it was so similar to the original otome game ! thank you for letting me know 🙂 I also quite enjoyed what I saw of it XD
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In case anyone is interested, I translated the Episode 1 Chinese subtitles –> English. Not a perfect translation since it’s separated by one language. If anyone else is interested I can translate the rest. It takes a few days for one episode because like most people, I work, and I have to eat/sleep. That aside, Nakamura Yuichi is really good looking… I could watch him all day. But no, I really can’t for the stated reasons. ^_^v http://keroberus-tea-room.blogspot.com/2016/01/hakuoki-ssl-sweet-school-life.html
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THANK YOU! you’re the saviour of all Hakuouki fangirls XD
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Somehow I can’t watch episode 6
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